BC Soccer sanctioned USSL Summer Leage

[LFC]

I,ve coached /been involved in the USSL since it started and each year has seen an increase in numbers and many of the bigger winter clubs are not participating and prob would if it was sanctioned by BC Soccer . Clubs in Dist 5 currently not participating CMF , NCU , PCE , West Coast , Langley , SU , Coastal , Delta ,Ladner etc . I,m sure these clubs would participate and get involved in a BC Soccer sanctioned USSL leage

The USSL still has to have their AGM yet and it will most likely be held in the next few weeks. Should be interesting to see whats going on as nothing has been emailed about any changes or updates and the Leage is still expected to start as normal in April.

 

[easoccer]

Having been to those meetings in the past its just a matter of voting on which date to start. Last week of april or first week of may. They most likely already have all of the permits in place for practices and games.

 

[Admin]

I've heard recently that there may be some problems with the USSL this spring, something about groups splitting off and trying to do their own thing now...

 

[4_the_kids]

I've heard recently that there may be some problems with the USSL this spring, something about groups splitting off and trying to do their own thing now...

this news isn't surprising.
The board members of largest two USSL clubs Canadian Eagles and BC Tigers are the same people responsible for all the crap with CCB. The group that created Canadian Eagles( which is Canadian Rocks , Pacific Eagles and Akal merged together) where also largely the same people on CCB Executive. Most of the Canadian Eagle Executive stepped down in order to remain on the CCB board. The CCB group has vowed to not be participating or endorsing USSL this year and are looking to create a new sanctioned spring league. So if this is the case it puts membership in the USSL very low, and could be creating the other issue of clubs parting ways and going in different directions.

 

[easoccer]

I am a coach in the ussl/ussa for years. Im putting my son in coastal and my daughter in surdel for. Im also fed up with the nonsense. I will enter my team in the ussa and see how it goes now that half are going one way and half the other.

I have heard talk of ccb putting different age groups spread around in other clubs local spring leagues.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[LFC]

I've heard recently that there may be some problems with the USSL this spring, something about groups splitting off and trying to do their own thing now...

USSL should start as normal in April and discussions are currently ongoing . Fields are available for the USSL from April 1 .

 

[WTF]

I've heard recently that there may be some problems with the USSL this spring, something about groups splitting off and trying to do their own thing now...

Heard the same thing and such a shame that a Leage is being split due to politics

 

[easoccer]

A big shame indeed. As a coach i find it hard.

Its like a kid torn between mom and dad after a separation.

Friends on both sides.

Now those who used to wave and say high to each other are now mean mugging.

The kid who went with mom wonder why dad ignores him now.

Siblings on either side not as close anymore.

These are the days of our lives......er parents from newton.

 

[WTF]

A big shame indeed. As a coach i find it hard.

Its like a kid torn between mom and dad after a separation.

Friends on both sides.

Now those who used to wave and say high to each other are now mean mugging.

The kid who went with mom wonder why dad ignores him now.

Siblings on either side not as close anymore.

These are the days of our lives......er parents from newton.

Well written , funny and the facts about the unique soccer scene in Newton/Surrey .
Before & during this current season full teams have been split in 2 and sometimes 3 pieces - CCB , SFC, PUF and now teams will be split further for the summer .
So now its not just a kid split between a mom & dad after a separation , there,s going to be like 4 grandparents and some Uncles/Aunties as well fighting for that kids affection = what sort of environment is that for young soccer players = shame , shame !!!

 

[SoccerMom]

I dont understand the problem. I may not be aware of all the issues but it seems there are a lot of choices for parents to choose from which can't be all that bad.

If teams are being split over choice they are probably not stable to begin with and are not really a team.

 

[easoccer]

Choice isnt bad per se, its how one is treated when they dont toe the line.

 

[SoccerMom]

Choice isnt bad per se, its how one is treated when they dont toe the line.

Who will mistreat you? By you saying "Toe the Line", I am assuming you are part of a group or club where you are forced to do as the majority says or does.

If this is the case why not just join another club where you share common goals and your opinion matters?

 

[easoccer]

If you reread the post i made a couple back you will see my feelings are known on the subject. Even if it was written in jest.

Being involved in soccer for me is just as much a social aspect as it is about coaching and keeping the kids active.

 

[easoccer]

And i have said many times on this board that i did move my kids out of newton this year to where i could find a spot for them. Coastal surdel and guildford.

Regardless of all that went on, or didnt, everyone was always quite friendly to us and i miss that. It just doesnt seem the same now, which was the point of my post.

 

[TKBC]

I dont understand the problem. I may not be aware of all the issues but it seems there are a lot of choices for parents to choose from which can't be all that bad.

If teams are being split over choice they are probably not stable to begin with and are not really a team.

the cream will rise to the top. the club with the best admin, coaches, character/attitude, TD will attract the best players. Simple. And also exactly how it should be. Small cities like the one I live in have just 1 club - it's good because everything is centralized and resources shared, but bad because there's no external competition because the nearest club is 30 minute drive - so very very few players are going to join that club let alone the ones past that one!

 

[4_the_kids]

And i have said many times on this board that i did move my kids out of newton this year to where i could find a spot for them. Coastal surdel and guildford.

Regardless of all that went on, or didnt, everyone was always quite friendly to us and i miss that. It just doesnt seem the same now, which was the point of my post.

I too moved my son out of Newton this year, and while i miss some of the relationships i built up over the many years there, my son is having fun again, there is a spark and fire that I haven't seen in 2 years so for me the move has been fantastic my only regret is i didn't do it sooner as the writing has been on the wall for a while in Newton..

 

[WTF]

And i have said many times on this board that i did move my kids out of newton this year to where i could find a spot for them. Coastal surdel and guildford.
Regardless of all that went on, or didnt, everyone was always quite friendly to us and i miss that. It just doesnt seem the same now, which was the point of my post.

Well written , funny and the facts about the unique soccer scene in Newton/Surrey .
Before & during this current season full teams have been split in 2 and sometimes 3 pieces - CCB , SFC, PUF and now teams will be split further for the summer .
So now its not just a kid split between a mom & dad after a separation , there,s going to be like 4 grandparents and some Uncles/Aunties as well fighting for that kids affection = what sort of environment is that for young soccer players = shame , shame !!!

Newton/Surrey soccer is different and unique from any other area in BC . Most kids play all year round and the Indo Summer clubs have the power and want to control things their way. If a coach or team doesn,t play summer then that team/coach will lose players for the winter.
A full summer team will go as a full team into winter - Div 1 , Div 2 ,Div 3 etc [whatever the coach wants] without any tryout.
Everyone at Newton Athletic Park- club head guys, coach,s , parents & players are all linked to each other -family , relatives, neighbors, school friends etc. With all the regular issues that occur amongst the Newton clubs the players suffer as the elders decide which team/club they will switch to depending on their allegiance rather than in the best interests of the player/players.

 

[4_the_kids]

Well written , funny and the facts about the unique soccer scene in Newton/Surrey .
Before & during this current season full teams have been split in 2 and sometimes 3 pieces - CCB , SFC, PUF and now teams will be split further for the summer .
So now its not just a kid split between a mom & dad after a separation , there,s going to be like 4 grandparents and some Uncles/Aunties as well fighting for that kids affection = what sort of environment is that for young soccer players = shame , shame !!!

Newton/Surrey soccer is different and unique from any other area in BC . Most kids play all year round and the Indo Summer clubs have the power and want to control things their way. If a coach or team doesn,t play summer then that team/coach will lose players for the winter.
A full summer team will go as a full team into winter - Div 1 , Div 2 ,Div 3 etc [whatever the coach wants] without any tryout.
Everyone at Newton Athletic Park- club head guys, coach,s , parents & players are all linked to each other -family , relatives, neighbors, school friends etc. With all the regular issues that occur amongst the Newton clubs the players suffer as the elders decide which team/club they will switch to depending on their allegiance rather than in the best interests of the player/players.

This is why I will continue to argue that despite the weather and a relatively well run league USSL and USSA is horrible for soccer in Surrey, it is in fact destroying it. The greed is too much. And its too bad as there are some very talented Indo - Canadian kids not playing at the elite levels they should be because of it. S much opportunity in Surrey to develop top level players but I digress.
Power = greed = money and politics = NOT FOR THE KIDS

 

[easoccer]

I too moved my son out of Newton this year, and while i miss some of the relationships i built up over the many years there, my son is having fun again, there is a spark and fire that I haven't seen in 2 years so for me the move has been fantastic my only regret is i didn't do it sooner as the writing has been on the wall for a while in Newton..

This is exactly the way I feel. I have 4 kids playing. I am a coach of one, and thus at least one kid is still there (spring/summer, etc). Which is why I find it tough sometimes. When you expect to greet someone who you had for the previous 5 years and they walk by because you didnt stand with their group, but instead went in another direction (for me it was with neither group), it's tough.

Oh well. I only have another 20 years to go (3 year old in waiting, lol) so I guess I'd better develop a thicker skin.

 

[socceroo]

Point 1
The success of any league is by its participation and numbers. If the league continues to grow then it is working.
Todays parents vote with their feet and quick at crying foul if they do not see positive results or not been satisfied.

The rest is just one mans opinion.

Point 2
Thank God there is no BCSPL at Newton Park. Can you imagine the tussle and power struggle then?

Which summer clubs are partnered with which winter clubs?

I always think that the person or the group who holds the key to the club house, registration database and field permits , game schedule and player allocation are the ruling group.

The others are just !!

Point 3
Also I read how the Surrey Soccer is all year round and how it has been running for so long, etc , etc.

I havent seen a powerhouse central Surrey youth team challenge Premier Cup or put an allstar showcase team in last 5 years.

Point 4

While the demographics does suggest that Newton catchment or boundary is unique , at the sametime the few exploit the situation.
Therefore I see continued chaos.......