Surrey has many great players, Newton based clubs are 95% or more Indo Canadian. There are many excellent players among the Indo Canadian community, there should be more achieving greater results than there are, why? Simple the politics around soccer within the community. SFC and CCB often have excellent Metro teams , why ? To generalize the reason is because the majority of their top players do not go on to play BCSPL , whether they are over looked, don't go to the tryouts, being kept by coaches, parents manipulated by coaches, it really doesn't matter it all exists . Unfortunately it is almost impossible to measure success of programs from these clubs due to strong influences from the community that are negatively affecting development. We are a full generation or two away from seeing that community mature and understand the greater picture, youth soccer is ALL about development not RESULTS. There are some within that get it, and there has been a slow change unfortunately right now the team must win or the parents will move on ...even at U8 or U9 this happens There needs to be a major shift in mentality from the community that feeds the Newton based clubs. Everyone is to afraid to face it, so instead the clubs try to accommodate while creating programs but it isn't working. The clubs need to stand up to coaches and parents, select teams need to be club selected not coach. It will never change until this happens, unfortunately the people on the boards, are part of the problem. disclaimer: I coached in this community for 6 years, I lost two development ( as selected by the club through evaluations) teams to summer soccer coaches because i didn't participate in summer soccer. I have seen coaches placed by clubs on select teams to try and change this, only to have those coaches ousted by the parents. The clubs are helpless. I can tell you that one group trying to stand up to this and another not wanting to split the board of BC Tigers which lead to a split board at CCB. There is more of course but this issue is part of it. Sorry I am ranting , this is a big issue. Much bigger than this forum. And if you haven't been in it, it is hard to understand just how awful it is. lastly for argument sake, for the three BCSPL closest to Surrey, Coastal, SU and FV the U13 boys based solely off of names is roughly 30% Indo Canadian. This is by far the largest %of all the age groups, and mainly because the top 2003 CCB team which was really good fed 8 players into these teams, and those players required some convincing to come, the garbage with CCB over the summer helped in that cause. ( or so I am told) Hopefully this is a start of a trend but for now its the exception to the norm...Id be surprised if more than 2 or 3 04's from CCB or SFC make BCSPL , this is by far the most dysfunctional age group in the community.