I think the challenge with smaller more geographical leagues is most areas are not big enough with the exception of Surrey , and Vancouver Look at District 5 U13 Div1 from last year 17 teams , if i try and make this 2 8/9 team leagues based on geography I am left with : Group 1: PUFC, CFC, NDS, SUSC, CFC, CCB, SFC, SUSC and South Delta. 9 teams all pretty close to each other, south Delta being the only real outlier. Group 2: PMO, AMF, CMF, LUSC, PCE, MFC, AFC, AMF = 8 teams from Tricities , Langley , Abbotsford and Mission.+ For Langley average travel time 25+mins, traveling 27+km compared to 11 mins and 18 km for the 3 three newton based clubs in Group A ...or 25 mins and 28 km for South Delta So it works great for some not so well for others.... I don't mind the travel providing the competition is good, traveling 45 mins to beat a team or lose to a team 8-0 is a waste of time for all. More than anything we need better tier placement of all teams. ..when I look at the standings for this division as an example it could easily be a 8-10 team league as previously discussed. Div 4 seems to have the best opportunity for smaller more district based leagues..