BC Coastal Soccer League

[southsloper]

The BCCSL "league administrator" position is mentioned in this thread: Category 1 and 2 - change to youth landscape

The job posting is found the Port Moody SC's website too: BCCSL League Administrator - Job Posting

I'm speaking to the communication level. Why is this particular communication not found anywhere else, like, you know, on the "current" website for this league? I checked out a few of the district websites and nada.

New website by Feb 28th?

New Admin hire by Feb 28th? I've searched and I've yet to come across a posting for this position which leads me to believe it's a job already awarded to someone currently involved. Nothing wrong with that I suppose but it is the same-old, same-old.

Everyone should prep themselves for more chaos next September including the same excuses for issues being trotted out.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[southsloper]

The BCCSL home page has the job posting today (although the link is broken at time of this post :-()...

The BCCSL "league administrator" position is mentioned in this thread: Category 1 and 2 - change to youth landscape

The job posting is found the Port Moody SC's website too: BCCSL League Administrator - Job Posting

 

[TKBC]

The BCCSL home page has the job posting today (although the link is broken at time of this post :-()...

lol what a great example of why they need an administrator!

 

[scissor]

So is this it? U15 boys play one more game this weekend and the season ends? No playoffs, no league champ play downs?
Just a cup game in October and you lose too bad have fun? Hey... you had 6 weeks to prepare right!
I try my best not to criticize bc soccer/district but this year you really make it too easy!
Start late and end early... maybe coaches should get the parents to demand discounts off the season since the only thing that seems to get clubs to move on anything is money. Too busy planning your spring leagues? ( more money) Want everyone gone to focus on HPL? (more money) Need field space for another U5 program? (more money)

 

[easoccer]

So is this it? U15 boys play one more game this weekend and the season ends? No playoffs, no league champ play downs?
Just a cup game in October and you lose too bad have fun? Hey... you had 6 weeks to prepare right!
I try my best not to criticize bc soccer/district but this year you really make it too easy!
Start late and end early... maybe coaches should get the parents to demand discounts off the season since the only thing that seems to get clubs to move on anything is money. Too busy planning your spring leagues? ( more money) Want everyone gone to focus on HPL? (more money) Need field space for another U5 program? (more money)

I feel exactly the same way. Start early. End early. Bye weeks. Cancelled games on cup weekend.

And it was great this year weather wise.

 

[Krutov]

If you are not "Elite" it really seems like the rest do not matter. Good luck improving the quality of play when families will be quitting and the actual numbers of participants in coming years will drop substantially

 

[southsloper]

The "League Administrator" job posting link is fixed... sent a note to the webmaster...

lol what a great example of why they need an administrator!

 

[southsloper]

Sorry, with girls only playing in BCCGSL, I'm trying to relate the boy's season to what my girl's seasons were this & past seasons...

I know the boys started, what 2 weeks later, than the girls? Some girls have brothers playing so I know some districts (i.e. Burnaby) organized their own district games to fill in the early missed week. Did your districts do likewise?

So what was a "typical" boys season (U13-U18), the calendar been in 4DL/5DL? Are you expecting more championship round robin or playoff games and not seeing them? Is this season significantly shorter than 4DL/5DL before? The season is ending way too soon?

So is this it? U15 boys play one more game this weekend and the season ends? No playoffs, no league champ play downs?
Just a cup game in October and you lose too bad have fun? Hey... you had 6 weeks to prepare right!
I try my best not to criticize bc soccer/district but this year you really make it too easy!
Start late and end early... maybe coaches should get the parents to demand discounts off the season since the only thing that seems to get clubs to move on anything is money. Too busy planning your spring leagues? ( more money) Want everyone gone to focus on HPL? (more money) Need field space for another U5 program? (more money)

 

[southsloper]

Bah -- exceeded the 10 minute time limit so I couldn't fix the strikeouts in the previous post :-(

 

[JSO]

I feel exactly the same way. Start early. End early. Bye weeks. Cancelled games on cup weekend.

And it was great this year weather wise.

Not to mention that the BCCSL does not make up games lost to weather at all . Cup games that were scheduled the same week as league ok overide league games ( no issue there) those were also not made up. Started mid September and over Mid February. Emailed league on a number of issues and not one reply ....not one. Now they are swallowing Metro and Girls leagues under its umbrella? See ya

 

[JSO]

If you are not "Elite" it really seems like the rest do not matter. Good luck improving the quality of play when families will be quitting and the actual numbers of participants in coming years will drop substantially

Also private programs popping up all over the place

 

[easoccer]

Also private programs popping up all over the place

The biggest concern I have is not the private programs but that several of them are run by the technical directors of the non profit clubs.

If you are hired and drawing a salary then your priority should be the club, and developing the programs within the club.

Im still getting emails for a private academy from a td in a club my son played on previously and I dont think that the contact list should be shared.

 

[TKBC]

The biggest concern I have is not the private programs but that several of them are run by the technical directors of the non profit clubs.

If you are hired and drawing a salary then your priority should be the club, and developing the programs within the club.

Im still getting emails for a private academy from a td in a club my son played on previously and I dont think that the contact list should be shared.

how could they possibly have time as well??? unless the academy runs when the NFP is on break (spring, summer).

 

[jmoulins]

So is this it? U15 boys play one more game this weekend and the season ends? No playoffs, no league champ play downs?
Just a cup game in October and you lose too bad have fun? Hey... you had 6 weeks to prepare right!
I try my best not to criticize bc soccer/district but this year you really make it too easy!
Start late and end early... maybe coaches should get the parents to demand discounts off the season since the only thing that seems to get clubs to move on anything is money. Too busy planning your spring leagues? ( more money) Want everyone gone to focus on HPL? (more money) Need field space for another U5 program? (more money)

In nine years of coaching winter soccer, this is the closest we've come to making it through a season without missing games to snow and ice. We miss games and practices every year, and we pretend it's unusual. Our last game of the season was cancelled and we've had to cancel 2 friendlies and two weeks of practices.

In 9 years coaching spring soccer, we missed a game once, because of a thunderstorm.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, moving our main season to ANY other time of year would be the single best thing we could do for soccer in this part of the world. This is ridiculous.

 

[Coach Ian]

Why fold metro? To reinvent the wheel? Just adjust and improve it.

District-based teams are reasonable at that level of play to feed into BCSPL (which should also remain top tier, with adjustments).

What's wrong with kids trying different programs? Boundaries should be eliminated so families can find the program that works for them (and so the best really are filtered into the top tiers).

I'm in favour of keeping Metro as long as there is a promotion/demotion involved.
I am not in favour of keeping Vancouver FC.
I feel they have become redundant, now that Fusion FC is on the scene.
Last year, VUFC proposed to be included, with entering teams at the Metro level. It was voted down, by the members of VYSA.
I was in agreement with VUFC, as I don't believe that VFC is the club that it was originally set up to be, because of Fusion FC.
Originally, VFC was set up by the clubs of Vancouver Youth Soccer Association to be the club where the best players of the member clubs of VYSA were sent to play the highest level of soccer, which was the Metro League.
That's no longer the case, with Fusion FC and HPL

I believe now, that VFC are taking whatever players they can, just to fill teams. I can give you an example.
A few years back I had a girls team. I had players, including my own daughter that tried out for VFC. I had 3 players make the team, 1 of which was my daughter. The other girls 1 was assessed as a silver player the other was assessed as bronze. How did they make the Metro team? That team never won a game that season. My daughter finding out that the bronze player had made the team, declined the invitation to play for them.
So how many other VFC teams are doing the same thing?

As far as boundaries go, I am in total disagreement. If anything they need to be stricter. You have players doing the tryout tour!
Parents thinking there child is better than he actually is. Thinking little Johnny is a gold player, but gets assessed at silver or bronze, then taking him to another clubs assessment, then another and another.
All you're doing is making clubs and teams weaker. You're not improving players by doing that. How do you improve a player if his team is winning 8-0 every game? Where's the competition?
You need teams to be competitive against each other, to improve!

If you let players move to wherever they want, to build power house teams, that doesn't improve the player or the game. What it does do more than anything, is create poaching of players. Which is exactly what you have going on right now!
It's exactly what used to happen in Lacrosse, which is why we should follow there model, regarding player movement and boundaries.

Cheers,
Ian

 

[southsloper]

I thought there was a limit of 5 players from out-of-district limit per MSL team? And those players needed to be released by their home district?

[deletia]
As far as boundaries go, I am in total disagreement. If anything they need to be stricter. You have players doing the tryout tour!
Parents thinking there child is better than he actually is. Thinking little Johnny is a gold player, but gets assessed at silver or bronze, then taking him to another clubs assessment, then another and another.
All you're doing is making clubs and teams weaker. You're not improving players by doing that. How do you improve a player if his team is winning 8-0 every game? Where's the competition?
You need teams to be competitive against each other, to improve!

If you let players move to wherever they want, to build power house teams, that doesn't improve the player or the game. What it does do more than anything, is create poaching of players. Which is exactly what you have going on right now!
It's exactly what used to happen in Lacrosse, which is why we should follow there model, regarding player movement and boundaries.

Cheers,
Ian

 

[TKBC]

yes 5 is the rule for MSL.

 

[southsloper]

Yes, i already knew that, but perhaps Coach Ian didn't

yes 5 is the rule for MSL.

 

[Old Girls Coach]

As far as boundaries go, I am in total disagreement. If anything they need to be stricter.

I have to disagree with that. Maybe strict boundaries work in larger districts but as a parent with children in the Alouette District I have to say strict boundaries would be a nightmare. When Golden Ears and Pitt Meadows merged to form West Coast it was sold as being better for the kids, it would allow all players to play at an appropriate level. Instead we got an extremely arrogant club that seems to think players have no other choice but to play for West Coast. They tried to kill Albion FC when it started up and they really haven't responded to the other clubs in the region stepping up their development programs. West Coast's development pathway is a mystery to anyone not named Neil Turner. I mean seriously, I have been involved in the club as a coach and parent since West Coast merged and I cannot tell you the club's philosophy, nor method, nor future plan for developing players. If you enforce strict district boundaries in Alouette you will be rewarding West Coast, because neither Albion nor Mission are big enough to be competitive.

And as an aside regarding smaller districts and West Coast, when you have so few teams that your U11 girls house teams have to play your U12 girls house teams in order to build a league you know there are serious problems.

 

[TKBC]

I have to disagree with that. Maybe strict boundaries work in larger districts but as a parent with children in the Alouette District I have to say strict boundaries would be a nightmare. When Golden Ears and Pitt Meadows merged to form West Coast it was sold as being better for the kids, it would allow all players to play at an appropriate level. Instead we got an extremely arrogant club that seems to think players have no other choice but to play for West Coast. They tried to kill Albion FC when it started up and they really haven't responded to the other clubs in the region stepping up their development programs. West Coast's development pathway is a mystery to anyone not named Neil Turner. I mean seriously, I have been involved in the club as a coach and parent since West Coast merged and I cannot tell you the club's philosophy, nor method, nor future plan for developing players. If you enforce strict district boundaries in Alouette you will be rewarding West Coast, because neither Albion nor Mission are big enough to be competitive.

And as an aside regarding smaller districts and West Coast, when you have so few teams that your U11 girls house teams have to play your U12 girls house teams in order to build a league you know there are serious problems.

Open the borders for everyone. Eliminate districts. Free movement. Give families choice. The clubs with the best resources and development programs will win out, as they should.