Why don't we have make up games?

TKBC

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Aug 21, 2015
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Three of the fields we use for soccer in the fall and winter are unavailable to us in the spring due to baseball. How is that not conflicting? We had to postpone our U6-U7 jamborees in September because of baseball provincials. The conflict is a valid argument.

Soccer in spring will conflict with baseball...which uses the same fields.
Soccer in fall will conflict with hockey. Oh well...kids need to make a choice.

While I would love to spend my coaching weekends in shorts and shades, rather than stadium jackets and mukluks, to be perfectly honest, I would rather spend the nice weather weekends camping with my own boys, hiking, hitting the beach etc, rather than driving around to soccer.

Just my opinion. I'm not that put off by a little rain.

The solution is simple. Move Div 1-MSL-BCSPL to spring-fall and keep Div 2 and down to Fall-spring.
 

TKBC

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Aug 21, 2015
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Conflict or not.
Hockey is the #1 sport in Canada and that is not going to change. They are very organized and well structured.
Baseball takes over in the spring and that's not going to change. It is also well organized and after most games drinks and hot dogs help the teams socialize and bond.
Soccer has the most participation at U6 level than any other sport but we loose them very quickly. When the games are completed everyone is cold and takes off, there is no where for the teams too celebrate, talk and have a snack or hot drink(changing rooms). This creates better friendships and team bonding. A great example of the is the Meraloma Rugby Club, the clubhouse is a tradition that is past on to each generation.
All Vancouver parks has changing rooms but they are never used. We have a huge volunteer pool that is untapped that could make sure the changing rooms are maintained and kept clean after each game.
Some changing rooms are being used for artist. I'm not against that but they were build to support team sports and currently they are not being used.
Talk and discussion with your team after each game will only help build the sport.

Admittedly I am in the District 5 area but I am hard pressed to think of more than 2 soccer pitches that would be impacted by baseball for any level above Div 2.....
 

jmoulins

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Nov 7, 2015
55
Admittedly I am in the District 5 area but I am hard pressed to think of more than 2 soccer pitches that would be impacted by baseball for any level above Div 2.....
I can't think of any soccer pitches in Vancouver that are shared with baseball. Our grass pitches are unplayable in soccer season and unused by league soccer players when they're in good shape.
 

SOCCER 4 LIFE

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Dec 27, 2015
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I can't think of any soccer pitches in Vancouver that are shared with baseball. Our grass pitches are unplayable in soccer season and unused by league soccer players when they're in good shape.

Hillcrest, Moberly, Kensington, Oak Park, Memorial, etc. So many fields in Vancouver are in conflict with baseball during the summer, and turf fields are in conflict with Ultimate and field hockey.

I grew up playing soccer and football, and both were played in the fall!
 

TKBC

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Aug 21, 2015
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Hillcrest, Moberly, Kensington, Oak Park, Memorial, etc. So many fields in Vancouver are in conflict with baseball during the summer, and turf fields are in conflict with Ultimate and field hockey.

I grew up playing soccer and football, and both were played in the fall!

so you grew up playing in the Fall...how many world cups did kids you grew up playing with qualify for? Honestly, we are spinning our wheels here. Will changing the season for our top 3 divs (or all the divs) get us to the WC? Course not. But training in March is obviously going to be more effective than training in November.
 

jmoulins

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Nov 7, 2015
55
Hillcrest, Moberly, Kensington, Oak Park, Memorial, etc. So many fields in Vancouver are in conflict with baseball during the summer, and turf fields are in conflict with Ultimate and field hockey.

I grew up playing soccer and football, and both were played in the fall!

You grew up playing soccer in fall and winter, yet you'd put your kids through the same thing?

My kids played baseball only on little league fields that are strictly off-limits to soccer. Soccer games all played on soccer (and ultimate) only turf fields that go largely unused in spring.
The point is that many kids are turned off soccer early on. Yes, most kids eventually have to choose one or two sports over others. Why force them to choose between soccer and hockey so young, and make it so easy to choose hockey by ensuring a miserable soccer experience?

The south coast produces world-class athletes in hockey, baseball, basketball, athletics, etc.

Not so much in soccer in a long time.

We lose weeks of soccer to bad weather every year.
 

jmoulins

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Nov 7, 2015
55
The single most important thing we can do for soccer here is ensure young kids have an opportunity to get hooked on an equal footing with other sports. That they get to play organized soccer without fear of frostbite would be a bare minimum expectation.

Off the top of my head, I recall 4 of the strongest players I've coached all chose hockey over soccer. Three of them continued to play Britannia Microfootie (6 aside spring league) where they shine against even the HPL level kids who stayed with soccer. These kids obviously still love soccer and would still be playing given the chance.

I'm an old hockey player, but watching my kids grow up playing soccer has made me a convert. Given a choice between soccer, hockey, baseball, rugby, football, tennis or you name it, I think kids will choose soccer every time. It has the easiest point of entry, and is endlessly challenging.

The fact that so many kids continue to play despite the barriers we put up is a testament to the game.

But that so few of our elite young athletes choose soccer is an indictment of the way the game is run here.
 
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