4DL & 5DL Merging?

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  1. southsloper

    southsloper Member

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    The 5dsl.ca website shows it's now 3 District, updated from 2 District. Not big on explaining change anywhere though, and I guess they don't look at bcsoccercentral (here) :)

    "The 3 District Soccer League starts in September and includes South Fraser, Fraser Valley and Alouette for U10 and U12 boys only."
     
  2. TKBC

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    I saw the change to 3-district. So this must be a sign that d4 and 5 have merged then? And the other "confirmation" be the report that Tri-Cities has joined d4 - along with the rest of d5.
     
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    The most recent minutes from 4D (June) make no reference to a merger. Only the current four districts plus Tri-Cities were represented so I don't think there is any "merger". The only change is the movement of Tri-Cities from 5D to 4D.

    The 3D league appears to be a limited age group specific league not a broader league like 5D and 4D
     
  4. TKBC

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    So where is the web site for u13-18 district 5?
     
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    Coming mid august.

    If anybody read the fine print in the 3DL page, Richmond is listed as one of the districts. Maybe there was a trade. Richmond for Tri Cities
     
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    "Each District is responsible for the general operation and promotion of soccer within their respective geographic boundaries. All boys' youth teams will include SFDA, Richmond Soccer Association, Fraser Valley Youth Soccer Association and Alouette District Youth Soccer Association"
     
  7. TKBC

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    oh wow I hope not - forcing these teams to trek Chilliwack to White Rock/Ladner is already brutal (as Div 1 and down are lower tiers).
     
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    Richmond was still participating in 4D as of the last district meeting as per the minutes. I don't know if anything has changed.

    Again the 3D league says only U10-12 so no idea what is happening for the rest.

    In looking at Surrey United website it appears South Fraser is going alone for U13-18
     
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    I heard talk of a super-district. I dont think SF is doing their own district.
     
  10. TKBC

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    I think there's a lot of "talk" ;)

    If I was in South Fraser and I took a look at the clubs in that district, I'd be advocating to also then have my own league within that district. Lots of competition with a small area.
     
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    Lots of talk, but lots of actions.

    From the 4-District website:

    "Welcome to the new BC Coastal Soccer League comprised of the Alouette, Burnaby, Fraser Valley, North Shore, Richmond, South Fraser, Tri-Cities and Vancouver Youth Soccer Associations.

    If you are not already aware, the Lower Mainland District Chairs have agreed to amalgamate all eight districts into one League to be named the BC Coastal Soccer League (BCCSL) and will begin with the 4-District and 5-District boys in September of 2017. This will be a season of transition and more information will be forthcoming.
    U13 to U18 Gold teams will be scheduled to play with the eight (8) districts.

    U13 to U18 teams in levels below Gold will be scheduled to play geographically."


    The old 5-District website is now the website for 3 District, which is U10-U12 boys, for South Fraser, Fraser Valley, and Alouette.
     
  12. TKBC

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    "below gold" - gold should be geographical as well. more reason for me to stick with u12 and down! lol.
     
  13. easoccer

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    If we are going by district 4 structure then I guess we will have bronze 1&2 silver 1&2 gold 1&2. I mean we still still called div 2 silver anyway. Better I think.

    Also it will provide a little better separation between team abilities if they do go that route.
     
  14. TKBC

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    Or they could call silver 2 division 4, which is what it is. Silver 1 is a tier above Silver 2. If they are equal then ya, Silver 1 and 2 makes sense.
     
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    why stop there then? whitecaps div1 bcspl div 2, i mean its not the point really. my point was more along the lines of people calling things silver, gold, etc. even though we were organized into div tiers. District 4 used gold silver. and they are using their format right? and district 4 had a habit of regularly moving teams up and down which should be better for everyone. and yes I know about your team making a huge comeback and under this system it should still be possible. I believe this is better.
     
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    lol yer a funny guy easoccer, haha not discussing team movement among levels - and as I always said there's context to consider when moving teams up or down, not just record ;)

    My only point is I think we "mislead" teams and parents into thinking they are a level they aren't. If they are silver 2, but silver 2 is lower than silver 1 why not just call it tier/division 4? Unless maybe they start creating cup competitions among divisions? ie, create a silver cup for Silver 1 and 2, gold cup for Gold 1 and 2....etc.

    :)
     
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    why stop there then? why not div1-10 top to bottom? or a-k,etc like in cup? personally i think 2 categories at each level is fair. gold through bronze. because there is definatelty a blurred line and it should still be competitive. if not your team is in the wrong place not the system. but not only that better competition develops better players and teams. i always admired district 4's setup and am glad its being adopted all around.
     
  18. TKBC

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    Why not 1-10? What does league name have to do with competitiveness? That is unless as I asked - is Gold 2 a lower division than Gold 1? Or is simply like MLS that has two conferences? This is my question.
     
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    Gold 2 is lower than Gold 1. It is higher that Silver 1. It does seem a bit redundant under the new format if it will indeed exist.
     
  20. easoccer

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    It should be, but even last year a couple higher div 2 teams throttled lowdr div 1 teams in cup play. so its not so cut and dry.

    Label the teams 1-8. It doesnt really matter. Just as Silver 1 & 2 Doesnt matter. As long as the groups are competitive. And I honestly dont think using either naming convention will provide or hinder any insight into what parents believe their kids are as players. We all have blinders on anyway.
     

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